I've got nothing on them when it comes to talking sex. As mentioned in my previous post, College Daughter was home for a whole month. We had plenty of alone time. I thought it might be an ideal time to once again, try to be the mature adult and have a serious conversation about sex.Fortunately, (for Husband and me) we've had a free ride in this parenting/dating experience so far because College Daughter was a high school jock. In fact, around these parts, she's quite famous for her skills on the field. She spent her middle and high school years working out, private lessons and at travel tournaments every weekend and all summer. There just wasn't time left over for boys. And after attending freshman homecoming, she proclaimed school dances as "lame - too hot, too crowded and stinky." She went to one other dance, but that was only because her friends were renting a Hummer limo and she didn't want to miss the chance to ride in one of those monsters.
So, here we are with her away at college, and us never having greeted a boy at the door and sent her off on a real date. I was sort of excited last semester when she began talking about a hot guy in one of her classes who was really nice and that she was meeting before class a few times a week to go eat with in the dining hall. Me, being the girl who'd been through a dozen boys by the time I was her age. I didn't pester her too much about the boy, but when she was home on break, I asked what happened with him. She laughed, said he was VERY nice, but that after a while, he didn't seem too bright, had flunked the class they were in together, and liked to talk about his "show pigs." Yeah, you heard that right. And city slicker girl was just not able to relate to that. But, they're still friends.
I'm all about not missing opportunities, so I try to pursue talking sex. I feel guilty when I read about teen pregnancies, STD's and the like. Sure, we had the big talk way back in 5th grade. And she has told me about people she knew in high school who were having sex, and girls at college who were giving oral to dudes in the parking lot. Stuff like that. It's not like we are shy when it comes to gossiping about OTHER PEOPLE. I've bought her a few books that uphold our family's values on the subject. But, it's still not easy to talk about. Here was our 30 second sex talk last week:
Me: Did you ever read that book I got you last year?
Her: What book?
Me: You know, that book about sex.
Her: Yeah, I probably read it.
Me: Well, do you have any questions about it or sex in general?
Her: No
Me: You know you can ask me anything. I won't be embarrassed. You can ask me anything you want.
Her: Ok
Me: So, do you have any questions?
Her: Nope
Me: Ok
Am I lame or what?? Conversely, maybe she really doesn't have any questions because she knows everything already and could teach me a thing or two?
Yesterday, she calls and it's her second day into the semester. She manages to slip this little nugget into the conversation.........."I'm kind of hanging out with a guy tonight." HUH?? It appears that she kept in touch via Facebook all break with some guy and they have sports in common and he asked her if she wanted to shoot some pool and hang out last night.
And, he doesn't live on a farm.
Imagine that, somehow I can relate now that Oddkin has a BOY .... :-)
ReplyDeleteAfter boy left the other day Oddkin and I had a couple chats about boy and college and alla that. I'm sure she's dreading the next. And you can be sure there will be a next! Bummer for her!
But then, all a parent can provide is a foundation, huh?
I remember 'The Talk' that I had with my dad. It went something like this -
ReplyDelete"Trust me, the plumbing works. Don't mess with it."
And I guess that served me decently well. . .
My boys still think girls are gross, so I guess the window is still a bit closed here for this kind of talk, but I do, randomly, toss in nuggets of relationship wisdom when I can - like when we're coming home from the Y pool and I casually mention all the girls who circle my 11 year old son like a shark - and when it's appropriate. Then I break up bickering at the dinner table when one boy insists the other has a girlfriend and they go back and forth debating the fact they don't.
ReplyDeleteMy parents never told me a thing. It's a wonder I made it to college before I ever tried a thing!
i have to say, i always wanted to avoid the awkwardness of "the big talk" so i have just always talked about it pretty much like any other subject. the dinner table is a pretty common place for me to discuss sex with the kids. my husband is frequently mortified by this but i'd rather have them learning at home than on the school bus. there have been some really funny and memorable moments...
ReplyDeleteHad this talk when my son was 13 because he had started seriously dating (or as serious as it can get when you don't drive) his girlfriend. It's awkward.
ReplyDeleteBoy, what do you do when you are open about stuff, but she doesn't even WANT to talk to you about it or ask questions? I think my daughter would willingly ask questions for hours, and she's only 7. Luckily she doesn't quite know ALL the detailed questions to ask as of yet.
ReplyDeleteI'm always concerned about kids in college because it's just so tough to NOT have sex in that setting. It's practically built for it. Not to scare you or anything -- I'm sure your daughter is sweet and wonderful. :-)
Does 'athletic jock' for a girl usually translate into 'no boys'? I would think being athletic and in shape and cute (she's no doubt cute) would attract the boys...
Oh, man. I've already that THE TALK with my kid. When she was 6. However, I still bring up sex with her every once in a while. Only cause I want to reiterate the importance of the discussions and to make sure that when she gets older and starts thinking about it, she'll have it ingrained into her head all the discussions we had and will be able to make good adult decisions.
ReplyDeleteI think a brain cell just died in terror. I'm gearing up for a Bit More Than the Basics talk with the Princess (cause the stuff she's been hearing at school lately... holy cow) and I'm just a little bit uptight bout it.
ReplyDeleteNot uptight about sex... but about the communicating stuff about it in the right manner and the right time and making her feel like it's OK to talk to me about it. (BUT, really not just toooo much, cause I can only talk about sex with my CHILD just so much and then my skull will fracture.)
You get the point.
I have to say I am grateful that at my kids age they are content with a simple explanation. 'Mommy and Daddy love eachother soooo much that God gives us babies when we want them.' So far so good..(sigh)
ReplyDeleteXavier - yup, a good foundation, but their own decisions.
ReplyDeleteDesmond - Husband tells a great story about the talk his dad had with him. It started at the gas station a half a mile from their house and ended in the driveway.
FADKOG - Many parents still follow your parents' philosophy - if you don't talk about it, it doesn't exist.
Lime - I'm trying to do that, but so far, it's been a one-sided conversation with all of my kids.
Citizen - It IS awkward. For the kid moreso than for the parent here.
FTN - Not sure about all athletic girls. She didn't see a purpose to all the hair and makeup since she was just going to be getting sweaty later in the day. And she wasn't a Holister/AF wearer, or a drinker/partier, so that cut down on the number of boys who'd be interested at her school.
ReplyDeleteMama - I really do think that's the way to go; continual discussion.
Flutter - My problem is trying not to laugh. Cuz sex is funny!
JJ - I specifically remembering asking my mom "what if you don't want any babies?" I'm sure she was thrilled she brought it up in the first place!
ANYONE HERE ACTUALLY ENJOY TALKING SEX WITH THEIR PARENTS? It seems that's more of the issue, at least at our house.
here's one example of a convertastion at our house.
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granted they are humorous examples but we have serious conversations too, it's just that i only post the silly ones.
OMG you and I have the same daughter. Quiet in high school and then BAM college she finds a boyfriend. I've attempted the talk a few times because her mother (my ex) is terrible at it. She seems reasonable about it but of course I don't expect her to be completely open.
ReplyDeleteAs a father, you die a little each day you daughters get older. And I still have two more girls to go. God help me...
Mike - I agree, the girls are tougher. Of course, with our son, I just tell Husband to handle the talks.
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