No theme for this post . . . just a mish mash of thoughts . . .
Is it just me, or does everyone else feel as though the people who complain most about intolerance are also the ones who are the least tolerant to others' ideas, beliefs, feelings, etc.?
tolerance: a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward opinions and practices that differ from one's own. (*my emphasis on the bolded*)
I'm not sure if we can blame social media for this too, but it certainly seems in recent years that fewer and fewer people understand the definition. And that's all I'll say on the matter.
Here's something I'm not tolerant about: If you have tattoo 'sleeves,' a white, strapless wedding dress should not be in your future. Also, if you have a tat on your upper back (I'm not talking about a butterfly on your shoulder; I'm talking about an eagle displaying its wingspan across your back), a strapless wedding gown is also not appropriate. After a mere 3 dresses, my tattoo-less daughter did say 'yes' to the dress, but not until I suffered through watching another girl try on an endless parade of dresses, none of which looked all that grand on her. Just sayin'! (And I was half-tempted to post a photo here, because with all those mirrors, she wound up in every picture I took of my daughter)
It's sad that I get most of my news about my son's college life on Twitter, but that's how we roll. He does call me once a week, but that just isn't enough for me. Imagine my surprise when I saw that one of his suite mate's tweeted "Fire in the 720's!" over the weekend. Since I didn't receive a call from school officials, I assumed all was ok. And when you stalk people, you generally shouldn't phone them to ask what the hell is happening. He called yesterday and casually mentioned that someone in his suite decided to heat up a cookie on a JimmyJohn's bag for 5 seconds in the microwave and it simultaneously combusted. Then the unfortunate fool grabbed the burning bag with his bare hands and ran it to the sink. Then had to walk to the hospital at 4 a.m. because he was in too much pain to sleep. My first question was, "Didn't the fire alarm go off?" My son doesn't think the smoke detectors work too well, since they've never gone off, and he knows damn well someone in the building must have smoked something in a bathroom over the past five months. Well, that's reassuring to a mother!
Husband and I tried a Greek restaurant in town Friday night. We haven't been to that many Greek places, but know and love the basics. This place was weird, though. First, the menu didn't explain the items at all. Just the name of the item, the price, and sometimes the choice of lamb, beef or pork. The waitress was no help either. She was a beautiful 20-something of Greek descent, but English was clearly her first language, despite her lack of answering any of our questions about the menu. When we asked about beer choices (no beverages of any kind on the menu), she asked us what beer we liked. Huh? I guess she was trying to match up a Greek beer to our American preferences, but it was still odd. We had the Aris and the Alfa, which we enjoyed, but it would have been nice to have had a choice via the menu. I think we stood out as the only non-Greek patrons in the place, asking too many questions and not ordering a flaming dish. Anyway, the tzatziki, souvlaki, loukoumades, and meltzanosalata, were all good, but don't ask me for the ingredients.
Is it just me, or does everyone else feel as though the people who complain most about intolerance are also the ones who are the least tolerant to others' ideas, beliefs, feelings, etc.?
tolerance: a fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward opinions and practices that differ from one's own. (*my emphasis on the bolded*)
I'm not sure if we can blame social media for this too, but it certainly seems in recent years that fewer and fewer people understand the definition. And that's all I'll say on the matter.
Here's something I'm not tolerant about: If you have tattoo 'sleeves,' a white, strapless wedding dress should not be in your future. Also, if you have a tat on your upper back (I'm not talking about a butterfly on your shoulder; I'm talking about an eagle displaying its wingspan across your back), a strapless wedding gown is also not appropriate. After a mere 3 dresses, my tattoo-less daughter did say 'yes' to the dress, but not until I suffered through watching another girl try on an endless parade of dresses, none of which looked all that grand on her. Just sayin'! (And I was half-tempted to post a photo here, because with all those mirrors, she wound up in every picture I took of my daughter)
It's sad that I get most of my news about my son's college life on Twitter, but that's how we roll. He does call me once a week, but that just isn't enough for me. Imagine my surprise when I saw that one of his suite mate's tweeted "Fire in the 720's!" over the weekend. Since I didn't receive a call from school officials, I assumed all was ok. And when you stalk people, you generally shouldn't phone them to ask what the hell is happening. He called yesterday and casually mentioned that someone in his suite decided to heat up a cookie on a JimmyJohn's bag for 5 seconds in the microwave and it simultaneously combusted. Then the unfortunate fool grabbed the burning bag with his bare hands and ran it to the sink. Then had to walk to the hospital at 4 a.m. because he was in too much pain to sleep. My first question was, "Didn't the fire alarm go off?" My son doesn't think the smoke detectors work too well, since they've never gone off, and he knows damn well someone in the building must have smoked something in a bathroom over the past five months. Well, that's reassuring to a mother!
Husband and I tried a Greek restaurant in town Friday night. We haven't been to that many Greek places, but know and love the basics. This place was weird, though. First, the menu didn't explain the items at all. Just the name of the item, the price, and sometimes the choice of lamb, beef or pork. The waitress was no help either. She was a beautiful 20-something of Greek descent, but English was clearly her first language, despite her lack of answering any of our questions about the menu. When we asked about beer choices (no beverages of any kind on the menu), she asked us what beer we liked. Huh? I guess she was trying to match up a Greek beer to our American preferences, but it was still odd. We had the Aris and the Alfa, which we enjoyed, but it would have been nice to have had a choice via the menu. I think we stood out as the only non-Greek patrons in the place, asking too many questions and not ordering a flaming dish. Anyway, the tzatziki, souvlaki, loukoumades, and meltzanosalata, were all good, but don't ask me for the ingredients.

my kids still live with me and i swear its almost at the stage where i have to check out their instagram pages to find out anything about them.
ReplyDeleteThe last few years, we ended up texting our kids in the house, just to get a response or their attention.
DeleteHAHAHA! OMG...I loved this post! Especially the part about tattoos!
ReplyDelete"My son doesn't think the smoke detectors work too well, since they've never gone off, and he knows damn well someone in the building must have smoked something in a bathroom over the past five months. Well, that's reassuring to a mother!"
TOO FUNNY! But also very scary because what if there IS a fire? I have the opposite issue in my apartment building, because the fire alarms are forever going off when there's NO fire. And that happens a lot.
And yes, I agree...many of the people I know who complain about intolerance are the one's who are most intolerant.
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Glad you enjoyed! The lack of fire alarms is concerning. My oldest constantly complained about the fire alarms going off almost daily, due to people burning popcorn all the time.
DeleteIt's annoying when people go on and on about intolerance, and then make fun of someone they don't agree with, calling them 'retarded.' It seriously makes me feel violent!
Eh, to each their own. I try not to make too many rules for other people to follow 'cause I'm wary of the rules they might try on me. Tatoo away, I'll just stay home ;)
ReplyDeleteand the kids and lack of news, been there done that. tho keep in mind, when I were colleging Mom wouldn't take more than 1-2 calls from me a month as it was 'long distance'. and while I wrote weekly there was a LOT missing from them letters. hers too .....
I'm trying to have a better relationship with my kids than I did with my own mother. I still go a month without any contact with her today, which most people find shocking.
DeleteI can totally relate to that as you may have read before. These days I may chat with Mom every month or two and when I do I have to throw on my mantle of la-la-la for when she goes off-road (off kilter) in our conversation. And maybe we'll leave it at that.
DeleteSo far the issues have not surfaced in this generation. Here's hoping that maintains, ya know?
I can TOTALLY relate to what you are talking about here.
DeleteGod help me when my children leave home. I really pray I am not an annoying prying mother. I may need help.
ReplyDeleteI am now super hungry for a gyro and some honey puffs. Mmmm. Love me some Greek food.
I'm actually doing better than I thought I would, but I still have Middle Child here, so that helps.
DeleteHow neat your daughter said yes to the dress :) Although I do like to know what's going in the kids lives, I've adapted the adage "No news is good news" meaning if we don't hear what's going on, all is safe and sound :)
ReplyDeleteYes I do agree with your thoughts about intolerance.
Your story with the Greek restaurant reminded me of years ago when we ate at a Vietnamese restaurant. Hubby at the time worked with a lot of Vietnamese people and they had a favorite restaurant they would take him to for soup. He wanted to take me there sometime so they had written down on the paper what he should order for us since hardly anyone in the restaurant spoke English. We did get the soup that he liked from there, but it was definitely an interesting experience to be the only ones talking English :)
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Was it the pho soup? I like to go to restaurants that are authentic, but I still think a menu should list major ingredients so you know what you're eating. I don't like surprises with my food.
DeleteI do agree with your impression that it's the people complaining about intolerance who're often the least tolerant themselves. And the general level of intolerance seems to be rising all the time. So many people who just can't resist telling other people what to do or not to do. They should try modifying their own imperfect behaviour for a change.
ReplyDeleteNot being able to translate menu items is even more problematic if you're a vegetarian. Trying to work out which one is actually meat-free can be a nightmare.
Yes, trying to steer clear of meats is difficult, as well as having food allergies. The odd part for me was that the waitress seemed to be acting coy on purpose. Just weird!
DeleteThe Greek place sounds like a bit of an adventure. Perhaps you should go back with a Greek dictionary--assuming you do go back.
ReplyDeleteI think young women getting the strapless dresses just so they can show off their tattoos.
I am absolutely clueless about Twitter, though I'll get around to it some day. Probably when it's obsolete...
The first time I went to a Greek restaurant was in NYC with my future spouse, circa 1984. It was another decade till one appeared on the scene here.
DeleteI have a tendency to be distracted by things like tattoos and Twitter. Let me know if you join and I'll share some of my faves with you.
A friend of mine likes to say that, if you do something ridiculous, I'll take it as permission to ridicule you. . .
ReplyDeleteNow I suppose I'll have to tell the story of the time my roommate and I were awakened at 2am by the dorm's fire alarm going off. We were annoyed, and figured some drunk had pulled the alarm as a joke, but when I poked my head out the door, the hall was filled with smoke, and a guy in a bathrobe was running up and down the hall screaming, "Fire! Fire!" So, OK, we pulled our jeans on and went outside. . .
I'm somewhat amazed by how much of my vocabulary of Greek words are food-related - saganaki (Opaa!), baklava (Jen makes a mean baklava), spanikopita (I love spanikopita!). Oh, and Ouzo. . . can't forget the Ouzo. . .
My only knowledge is food related as well. I made baklava one time and got rave reviews, but it was such a pain, I never made it again.
DeleteI gotta reply to the wedding dress thing...I am a girl who adores tattoos. I only have one because I am trying to get a job that wouldnt look kindly on too many but if I could I would be covered. I think tattoos are an expression of oneself and considering a wedding day is a day to celebrate your own happiness I think its appropriate to share the tattoos that mattered so much to you. I don't think it looks trashy or innappropriate. You got the tats to show them off...why not on your wedding day?
ReplyDeleteI know, I'm probably old fashioned in this. It just looks really awful to me against a white dress. I think it has to do with the juxtaposition of something as feminine as a lace dress against colored tats of things like dragons. I would not be able to concentrate on the ceremony if that was my view.
DeleteAnd, uh, just 'cuz you said it. . .
ReplyDelete"Is it just me, or does everyone else feel as though the people who complain most about intolerance are also the ones who are the least tolerant to others' ideas, beliefs, feelings, etc.?"
It ain't just you, my friend. There is this thing around nowadays that takes 'tolerance' as 'universal acceptance'; that we're just supposed to be okay with whatever. But think about it - in order to 'tolerate' something, it sorta implies a degree of 'disapproval' that you're willing to forbear, for the sake of peace, or whatever. It's like 'forbearance' isn't enough, we've got to wholeheartedly approve, or else we're judgmental pricks. . . And you're right - the biggest 'tolerance'-pushers are the least tolerant of anyone with a different viewpoint from their own. . .
(sorry for the rant; can you tell you hit one of my 'hot-buttons'?)
It is an issue that really bugs me, too. And I'm not just talking about political or social issues. People seem to go off the deep end about everything. I agree with you that tolerance should not be equated with universal acceptance.
DeleteI don't care about the tattoos one way or the other. I'm not impressed by them, but to each her on on her wedding day.
ReplyDeleteIt hasn't been my experience that the people who talk most about intolerance are the most intolerant. I know plenty f folks who preach tolerance and also truly live it.
And yeah, I stalk my son's FB page, but most of it isn't public. :(
I've noticed that starting around my son's age (19) and younger, FB is passé. They've moved on to Twitter, Snapchat, etc. My older two and their friends are on FB all the time.
DeleteI guess that's true with my kids, too - my 20 year old has FB and my 17 yo has Twitter.
Delete(That's still me, I don't feel like logging into the right account!)
DeleteOh, and BTW, the folks who demand tolerance out of me are typically people who demand that I tolerate them and some behavior of theirs but the demand is seldom (i.e. never) satisfied by tolerance but rather demands that I accept and embrace said behavior.
ReplyDeleteI suppose they were . . . First borns??? Bahahaha
Deletenah, they're just bossy. intolerant of tolerance knows no birth order .....
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