It's been a while since I've posted about my middle child, who happens to have an autism spectrum disorder. When I last posted about her two years ago, she had graduated from community college with a two year degree in Early Childhood Education. After a few months of searching, she landed her first job ever, as a floater at a day care. She was working five days a week, for four hours per day.
That job lasted about six weeks. She was told on a random Tuesday that, "It's not working out" and not to come back. A bit of a shock, since according to her, she was never told that she was doing anything wrong in the prior six weeks. Never had a review; never given a chance to improve. Truth be told, she didn't like it there. As someone who follows rules and had just graduated, she often told me that the place did not follow 'best practices in early childhood education.' It made her uncomfortable, but it's not like she would ever say something.
I told her we would take a break for the rest of the summer and resume her job search in the fall. She continued sending out her resume to preschools, as well as applying online to a variety of other unskilled labor type of jobs (grocery stores, etc.) As she doesn't drive, we had to look at reasonable distances for me to take her on a daily basis. When Target called and asked if she could work a 4 am - 9 am shift, she had to say no. I have my limits.
She had maybe a half a dozen interviews, which yielded nothing. As she is high-functioning, we have always debated whether it is wise for her to say anything about her disability in an interview. While you don't want to be discriminated against, there's also the question of how an interviewer is going to perceive someone who has trouble with eye contact, communication, and non-verbal cues.
Then there was the disability job fair. Considering I'm on at least five different disability organizations' e-mail lists, you would think that a state-run job fair would have been on everyone's radar. No; I started receiving notices about it the night before it was to take place. Am I the only one who found that rather odd? I tried googling to get more information than the time and place listed in the e-mails and could find nothing. Weird, but we made copies of her resume and planned to go the following day to the hotel conference center where it was being held.
I'm not sure what I was expecting, considering the short notice. The massive parking lot was full when we arrived and I had to drive around and around till I secured a space. I guess when we walked in, I was expecting to see people with disabilities. You know, maybe some wheelchairs, service dogs for the blind, young adults with downs syndrome. Now, I realize that my own daughter doesn't look as though she has a disability on first glance. But this crowd? Basically, a ton of middle-aged men wandering around. Most being overweight. I seriously did not see one person with a discernible disability.
When we arrived at the registration table, they asked for my name. I pointed to my daughter beside me and said we were here for her and that they wouldn't have her name on their list, as we had just found out about the fair last night. That surprised the person, but she wrote down my daughter's name and then gave us a four page sheet of job positions by employer. We headed in to the conference room, but there was no walking room, and the employer booths were about six feet deep in people. Since crowds tend to disturb my daughter, I told her we should go back out to the lobby, sit down, and look at the sheets to see which employers she should seek out. I kept this paper, so here are just some of the highlights:
Engineering shift manager at a metal plant
RN for a home health company
Delivery driver for a dairy
Security guard at a university
Machine operator for a welding company
Forklift operator in a warehouse
Can I ask what sort of disability one could have that would allow for any of those jobs? Sure, there were a few other jobs (bank teller, call center) that were more on the unskilled end, but certainly nothing that my daughter would be able to realistically do. We left very discouraged.
That was 2015. In my next post, I will have more positive news about 2016.
That job lasted about six weeks. She was told on a random Tuesday that, "It's not working out" and not to come back. A bit of a shock, since according to her, she was never told that she was doing anything wrong in the prior six weeks. Never had a review; never given a chance to improve. Truth be told, she didn't like it there. As someone who follows rules and had just graduated, she often told me that the place did not follow 'best practices in early childhood education.' It made her uncomfortable, but it's not like she would ever say something.
I told her we would take a break for the rest of the summer and resume her job search in the fall. She continued sending out her resume to preschools, as well as applying online to a variety of other unskilled labor type of jobs (grocery stores, etc.) As she doesn't drive, we had to look at reasonable distances for me to take her on a daily basis. When Target called and asked if she could work a 4 am - 9 am shift, she had to say no. I have my limits.
She had maybe a half a dozen interviews, which yielded nothing. As she is high-functioning, we have always debated whether it is wise for her to say anything about her disability in an interview. While you don't want to be discriminated against, there's also the question of how an interviewer is going to perceive someone who has trouble with eye contact, communication, and non-verbal cues.
Then there was the disability job fair. Considering I'm on at least five different disability organizations' e-mail lists, you would think that a state-run job fair would have been on everyone's radar. No; I started receiving notices about it the night before it was to take place. Am I the only one who found that rather odd? I tried googling to get more information than the time and place listed in the e-mails and could find nothing. Weird, but we made copies of her resume and planned to go the following day to the hotel conference center where it was being held.
I'm not sure what I was expecting, considering the short notice. The massive parking lot was full when we arrived and I had to drive around and around till I secured a space. I guess when we walked in, I was expecting to see people with disabilities. You know, maybe some wheelchairs, service dogs for the blind, young adults with downs syndrome. Now, I realize that my own daughter doesn't look as though she has a disability on first glance. But this crowd? Basically, a ton of middle-aged men wandering around. Most being overweight. I seriously did not see one person with a discernible disability.
When we arrived at the registration table, they asked for my name. I pointed to my daughter beside me and said we were here for her and that they wouldn't have her name on their list, as we had just found out about the fair last night. That surprised the person, but she wrote down my daughter's name and then gave us a four page sheet of job positions by employer. We headed in to the conference room, but there was no walking room, and the employer booths were about six feet deep in people. Since crowds tend to disturb my daughter, I told her we should go back out to the lobby, sit down, and look at the sheets to see which employers she should seek out. I kept this paper, so here are just some of the highlights:
Engineering shift manager at a metal plant
RN for a home health company
Delivery driver for a dairy
Security guard at a university
Machine operator for a welding company
Forklift operator in a warehouse
Can I ask what sort of disability one could have that would allow for any of those jobs? Sure, there were a few other jobs (bank teller, call center) that were more on the unskilled end, but certainly nothing that my daughter would be able to realistically do. We left very discouraged.
That was 2015. In my next post, I will have more positive news about 2016.

I can see how this left you discouraged, and as for her former employer letting her go without first talking to her, in my opinion she is better off without them. Looking forward to more positive news.
ReplyDeleteThanks, Jimmy. The daycare was definitely not a good fit.
DeleteOMG, (as I'm sure you were) I'm flabbergasted at the list of jobs you shared in this post because as you said, what sort of disability one could have that would allow for any of those jobs?!?!
ReplyDeleteAnd as Jimmy stated, she is better off without them because it didn't sound like a good place to work. Yet, I still think it's inconsiderate and rude that they just let her go without any notice or talking to.
My heart ached when I read this because I know how excited you and your daughter were about this job back when she graduated.
But I'm SOOOOOOOO glad to read that your next post will be a positive outcome.
Have a grrrrreat weekend, my friend!
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Wasn't that list crazy? And the more I have delved into government assistance, the more shocked I become. They really seem to only help those who have become disabled on the job, not people who were born with disabilities. It is truly frustrating.
DeleteThat is sad about your daughter's employment at the day care center in that they left it with "its not working out" without specifically saying why. That would immensely have helped her moving forward with other job possibilities. Interesting job fair with the positions listed. Not on the spectrum, I would have not qualified for any of those listed.
ReplyDeleteI look forward to the positive news about 2016.
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The disability job fair truly made no sense to me, neither the jobs available nor the people in attendance! As I told Ron, maybe they cater to people who have become disabled on the job? But if you hurt your back, I'm not sure how you can continue doing machine shop work? I don't follow the logic!
DeleteDamn, to just go in and do those jobs listed I could do 2 of them and neither would be fun. I know for a fact the dairy one has you up early morning and driving all over hell's creation. Stupid. Maybe those who organized it are the disabled ones, as in very low iqs lol
ReplyDeleteI went to a job fair and it was pathetic, bunch of bums with their butt cracks hanging out. Tough to find a job no matter who you are, but when something is for the disabled, it should be jobs that are more universal. Like who in the heck can just go in and drive a forklift?
It was so WACK, Pat! When you posted something about attending a job fair, I couldn't wait yo tell you our experience. LOL!
DeleteWhat... she was never told that she was doing anything wrong in the prior six weeks? That's saying a whole lot about the people she was working for. I don't know if it should be mentioned that she has trouble with eye contact, communication, and non-verbal cues. I mean... is it really apparent?
ReplyDeleteHonestly, I can spot someone on the spectrum very easily, as I've lived with it my whole life (brother and now daughter). I don't know if others can tell, but they probably notice something is off.
DeleteI figured as much. Who cares if someone isn't perfect, right? I'm pretty sure we weren't born to be judged by others.
DeleteYeah, our older daughter had a similar experience with a local 'Christian' Day Care. She was dismissed with no notice after 2 months with a vague "She wasn't taking control of the room" when she worked. Except it was a Day Care. And she was not a teacher. And she was trained to actively play with the children, which they admitted she did very well and they admitted that they neither trained her to 'control' a room nor did they ask her to.
ReplyDeleteSome places of employment have little idea what they're really doing.
Looking forward to hearing the rest of the story!
I suspect it was a similar situation. For my daughter, too many kids in too great an area for her to watch at once.
DeleteWell, it was worse than that. Being the shy reserved fella I am, I set up a meeting with her supervisor and asked how out of control the room was. The bottom line was that the room was too peaceful and Sensible made 'too much' of a connection with the children .....
DeleteThat makes no sense, but the whole ECE stuff I've learned over the last 6 years has been perplexing, so whatever!
DeleteTell me about it! I told her that if they wanted a drill sergeant or a disconnected impersonal supervisor perhaps they should have made that clear?
DeleteI'm looking forward to your next post with better news!
ReplyDeleteI suspect a former boss/friend of mine has a mild form of Aspergers. He's never talked about it, but some of the things he says and does (or rather, the things he doesn't say or do) make me think that he has it.
The engineering profession has a lot of Aspergers!
DeleteWow, that seems kind of abrupt to just tell someone they aren't working out and not to come back without even letting them know they were doing something wrong.
ReplyDeleteIt was really sad and discouraging for her. I know she tried her best.
DeleteKudos to you for sticking by your young daughter and trying to help her make this most difficult of transitions. Young adults on the spectrum still need a ton of support, but a lot of the help out there is geared towards children. I'm sure that having you so clearly in her corner makes her feel like way more secure.
ReplyDeleteWell, thanks so much, BB. You are so right about the lack of transition support. We had her rediagnosed over the summer, as the DSM got rid of the PDD/NOS. Could not even find a neuropsychologist who diagnoses adults! Went back to the same person we used in 1997! And we live in a medical mecca. Sad.
DeleteYes, I fail to see how any of the jobs you listed would be suitable for someone with a disability. A very strange set-up. I hope she had better luck later on. There's still a lot of lip service paid to accommodating disability that turns out to be so much hot air.
ReplyDeleteThere is a lot of lip service. I think the general public thinks that if you have a disability, there are free services out there, such as transportation. We haven't found that to be the case.
DeleteWell, you know 'not working out' is code for 'we don't want to tell you, and this way we can cover our asses'. . . My wife and multiple daughters have all worked in Day Care at one time or another, and that is a very political bidness; people who run centers are very conscious of what they can and can't get away with, per conflicting gubmint reggalations. . .
ReplyDeleteAnd listen, as to engineers and Aspy. . . well, I (might) resemble that remark. . .
Oddly enough, we felt just the opposite. In the HUGE employee handout from Human Resources, it said everyone had a 90 day trial (she only got 45, apparently). When my daughter told her mentor what happened (another preschool teacher), she told her that a day care can't let you go without listing a reason, and requiring you to sign something. My daughter is adamant that she was not given a reason, nor did she sign anything.
DeleteMy husband initially wanted to set up a meeting, but considering how much my daughter didn't like it there, we figured it wasn't worth it.
I do remember you writing about your daughter before, and I was impressed with the both of you. Security guard? Really?? I'm hoping to hear that things were better in 2016...nice cliffhanger there!
ReplyDeleteThanks, Mark. More to come . . .
DeleteOh good grief. How incredibly frustrating.
ReplyDeleteAnd a nurse? How can one have a disability as a nurse? That would seem difficult.
Happy to hear that there is positive news coming in the next post. :)
A nurse would seem difficult, esp. considering the need to dispense drugs!
DeleteGood god. That was clearly not a job fair for people with disabilities, in spite of how it ws billed. I'm looking forward to the good news post!
ReplyDeleteJust coincidentally, today a patient brought in her son who is autistic and we talked about her goal of working with kids with disabilities.
I hope your patient is able to reach her goals. Being a parent is good experience, for sure!
DeleteThat is sad. I am looking forward to your 2016 post! I hope your daughter is well and thriving.
ReplyDeleteShe is. Thanks so much, Sage.
DeleteWow, Bijoux, I'm so sorry that you and your daughter had this awful experience. I've grown increasingly leery of job fairs, but, unfortunately, if you're out of work you don't have much choice.
ReplyDeleteI wish all the best for you and your family.
Thank you, Rob. Onward and upward!
Deletehope to read the 'positive' post soon. Life screws us all.
ReplyDeleteIt as rough going for a while!
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